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Word That You Don't Believe In
01-09-2011, 02:29 AM,
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RE: Word That You Don't Believe In
I agree with you Lolpandawin, there no such thing as being selfless, people just think selfless mean doing for others but when they do it they want something in return
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01-09-2011, 04:06 AM,
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:O Someone agrees with me :') I am so happy i could cry XD
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01-09-2011, 07:48 AM,
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Well we all have our opinions Hydra. Sad I wont push our religion on you but, The Lord has done so much for us over the years it unreal. Both of my parents, my dad twice, have fought cancer and lived Smile My dad was also involved in a motocycle accident (wasnt his fault) and is still riding. Crystal has had an imminsley hard life, from her parent disowning her, to being almost homeless if it wasnt for the Lord allowing us to meet. We have become stronger in the Lord and will continue to grow.
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01-09-2011, 11:32 AM,
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XD A few strikes of good luck and you beleave there's a god? Oh well, every one thinks differently ^-^ I'm also glad your father is doing well, seems like he's been though a lot.

In my opinion religion bring nothing but war, pain and missary. Terroist do what they do because of their religion. Most humans are very gullible, that's why they follow these riligions blindly.
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01-09-2011, 12:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-09-2011, 12:25 PM by bird123.)
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(01-09-2011, 11:32 AM)Ranos Wrote: XD A few strikes of good luck and you beleave there's a god? Oh well, every one thinks differently ^-^ I'm also glad your father is doing well, seems like he's been though a lot.

In my opinion religion bring nothing but war, pain and missary. Terroist do what they do because of their religion. Most humans are very gullible, that's why they follow these riligions blindly.

That's quite an uneducated statement Ranos. =/
The terrorist are from specific religions because some (most) of the higher ups are corrupt, and can use their position to make up rules and get their pawns to do what they want. Hence the Muslims gaining a bad reputation (though from reading a portion of the Qu'ran, they are by far the most corrupt and disgusting religion to date).
Religions are sets of rules. Back in the day they didn't have a very good system for law and order, thus they had to have people believe that what they did in this life affected what happened to them in an after one. It's all a form of control.

Ishzark, I'm a believer of science and evidence. I'm glad your Dad is okay and that Crystal and yourself have managed what you have. The fact remains though, that there's no evidence a divine being interfered.
Similar story, had I not intervened my Fiancé probably wouldn't be here right now. It was however, my choice. My Fiancé used to be religious. Say a prayer before every meal. This is when I first met her. I was willing to accept that, again, as long as she didn't force it on me. Things were complicated for her at school. That I will not explain. She searched, but she could not see any divine face peering down on her. She's never done anything wrong and always looks to please others, yet her Lord was punishing her, for nothing. After some time, she grew tired of waiting for Him to jump in. She couldn't see him ready to help. She couldn't see him at all. She lost her faith for this reason. There's nothing there in her eyes. If the Lord could save your Dad from cancer twice and allow you and Crystal to meet, then why couldn't he help her? It was a much more simpler situation than cancer. There is far too much evil and corruption in this world for me to ever believe.
That said, I'm not one to judge on religion. It's who you are that matters to me. (Of course, as long as you don't try to ram religious quotes and ideals on me, because that irritates me).

I really hope that this doesn't offend anybody. :shy:

(01-09-2011, 12:58 AM)Lolpandawin Wrote: Eh ill throw some of my opinions in here "Selfless" I honestly believe there isn't a single act in this world that isn't selfish... Even if its something like making a MH save for someone , we wouldn't do it if there was nothing for us to get out of it ... Even if it's that warm fuzzy feeling it sill counts.... Therefore I believe selflessness is a huge lie.

I'm not sure I agree with you. Yes, if you do an act just for getting something out of it, then you are selfish. However, if you do the act because you want to see somebody have a better living, then is that a selfish thing? True, you'll get a nice warm feeling that you've helped somebody, but if you don't do it for that reason then it is selfless. I'll give you a true example:
My Mother was at a friends with one of her other friends. The person who owned the house wasn't in, as Mothers other friend had done some cleaning and my Mum went round to give her some company. The man who owned the house is a hardy fellow, and isn't too good when it comes to cleaning (lazy rather). He has a daughter who is always clean, well dressed and the such. He spoils her, but within limit (the Mother doesn't live with him, they're not together). Anyway, Mother cleaned his kitchen as it was a state just so he could live in a decent kitchen for a while (until he messes it up again). When he got home he tried to pass Mum some money, as he had done her friend, but she refused. He was persistent, so in the end she took it.
Now, can you look at this situation and say Mother cleaned his kitchen to get paid? No, as she didn't know he would pay her. She did it out the kindness of her heart so he and his daughter could live in a better condition for a short while.

So yea...

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01-09-2011, 12:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-09-2011, 12:49 PM by Clarkie.)
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(01-09-2011, 11:32 AM)Ranos Wrote: In my opinion religion bring nothing but war, pain and missary. Terroist do what they do because of their religion. Most humans are very gullible, that's why they follow these riligions blindly.

I agree with that. Religions cause trouble, upset, and distrust.

(01-09-2011, 12:09 PM)Hydraclone Wrote: The terrorist are from specific religions because some (most) of the higher ups are corrupt, and can use their position to make up rules and get their pawns to do what they want. Hence the Muslims gaining a bad reputation (though from reading a portion of the Qu'ran, they are by far the most corrupt and disgusting religion to date).
Religions are sets of rules. Back in the day they didn't have a very good system for law and order, thus they had to have people believe that what they did in this life affected what happened to them in an after one. It's all a form of control.


Actually, most/all wars and fights are due to what people believe in religiously or otherwise. It may be true that Muslims have a bad reputation because the higher up members of their religion are corrupt, but not all world conflicts are around Muslims. For example, both World Wars happened because of what the different countries believed in. In WWII, the Allied Forces believed that the invasion of Poland was wrong, and therefore declared war on Germany because of their beliefs.

(01-09-2011, 12:09 PM)Hydraclone Wrote:
Ishzark, I'm a believer of science and evidence. I'm glad your Dad is okay and that Crystal and yourself have managed what you have. The fact remains though, that there's no evidence a divine being interfered.


I agree with this statement, if there was a God/Super-being, why does he let terrible things happen. Why does he let the Afghanistan situation go on, becoming more serious by the day.

That's part of my view on religion.
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01-09-2011, 02:50 PM,
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(01-09-2011, 12:49 PM)ac3xx Wrote: Actually, most/all wars and fights are due to what people believe in religiously or otherwise. It may be true that Muslims have a bad reputation because the higher up members of their religion are corrupt, but not all world conflicts are around Muslims. For example, both World Wars happened because of what the different countries believed in. In WWII, the Allied Forces believed that the invasion of Poland was wrong, and therefore declared war on Germany because of their beliefs.

I never said Muslims caused all wars. Bush declared war on Afgan in the name of God. I always find things like that funny because it backs up my views.

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01-10-2011, 05:53 AM,
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Hydra, by no means will we force our religion on you Smile We want to keep peace here and we believe that some wars are started torwards another forcing things down anothers throat. As for bush declaring war in the name of God, well imo Bush was an idiot as he screwed up the first day he went into office. Bush's father however was a great man. Again Crystal and I will never push anything on anyone as to preserve the peace and friendship here Smile

The old saying i wish we all could go by is "can't we all just get along?"
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01-10-2011, 09:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-10-2011, 09:08 AM by ac3xx.)
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This is thread 1000.... :L I'll post my thoughts tonight.
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01-10-2011, 10:48 AM,
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(01-10-2011, 05:53 AM)Ishzark Wrote: As for bush declaring war in the name of God, well imo Bush was an idiot as he screwed up the first day he went into office.

I agree with you on that one XD

(01-09-2011, 12:09 PM)Hydraclone Wrote: That's quite an uneducated statement Ranos. =/
The terrorist are from specific religions because some (most) of the higher ups are corrupt, and can use their position to make up rules and get their pawns to do what they want. Hence the Muslims gaining a bad reputation (though from reading a portion of the Qu'ran, they are by far the most corrupt and disgusting religion to date).

I know that... I just forgot to add that bit.
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